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No Fault Evictions

Started by: Tommy Two Stroke (15562)

As regulations for private landlords have been increased over the years, less and less people are becoming landlords, and existing landlords have been giving up being a landlord, because of the increasing cost and burden of regulations, so as a result there are less properties available for rent, and if they bring in this ban on 'no fault evictions' will that completely decimate the private rental market.

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I know that 'regulation' is needed for privately rented properties, but is it becoming over regulated ?

Started: 16th Oct 2023 at 13:50

Posted by: whups (13369) 

so you think it,s right people getting evicted thru no fault of their own do you 1stroke .

Replied: 16th Oct 2023 at 13:56

Posted by: basil brush (19583)

nothing surprises me with 2stroke

Replied: 16th Oct 2023 at 14:25

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15562)

Whupsy

I don't want people to be evicted through no fault of their own, but if a landlord does not have the option to take back their property, then a prospective landlord may decide not to become a landlord, and that is what has been happening, causing the already shortage of housing to become much worse, and the cost of the housing which is available has been pushed up, because of the increased demand for those remaining properties, so a ban on no fault evictions is good in one sense, but bad in another sense, because such legislation is going to drastically reduce the amount of properties available to be rented privately, and what properties there are available, will have sky high rental prices.

Replied: 16th Oct 2023 at 14:29

Posted by: tonker (28059) 

Don’t you believe it!
A landlord can’t just evict a tenant for no reason.

Replied: 16th Oct 2023 at 15:04

Posted by: frecky (624)

Tonker, unless it's changed, I remember a few years ago after dealing with a lettings agency on behalf of a family member, after the original six month contract was passed, the tenant had to give two months notice of vacating and if the landlord wanted the tenant out, they had to give the tenants the same period. Now as I said I don't know if that's still the case.

Replied: 16th Oct 2023 at 18:20

Posted by: frecky (624)

Just read that this is still in force and there is a bill going through to alter this section.

Replied: 16th Oct 2023 at 18:34

Posted by: tonker (28059) 

Frecky, I’m a landlord and have been renting properties out since the early 80’s.
I’ve had some very nice, reliable, tenants. But I’ve also had all the shit and a bag to put it in.
If there’s a contract, it must be adhered to.

Replied: 16th Oct 2023 at 21:06

Posted by: tonker (28059) 

Frecky, I’m a landlord and have been renting properties out since the early 80’s.
I’ve had some very nice, reliable, tenants. But I’ve also had all the shit and a bag to put it in.
If there’s a contract, it must be adhered to.

Replied: 16th Oct 2023 at 21:24

Posted by: First Mate (2425)

That's told you twice frecky
Make your mark

Replied: 16th Oct 2023 at 22:30
Last edited by First Mate: 16th Oct 2023 at 23:20:43

Posted by: whups (13369) 

yes & i remember when the benefit payments went to the landlord & you could,nt knock them down with a stick but now the payments are given to the claimant & they have to pay the landlord they dont want them in their property . talk about double standards & who was it that changed it iain duncan smith . now the landlords fear they wont get the rent they kick them out even tho they have never missed a payment . i remember tv shows documenting this very thing a while ago .

Replied: 17th Oct 2023 at 01:13

Posted by: peter israel (2144) 

i had a rental property the guy in the place was receiving benefit payments Over 1 year he missed 2 months i remembered he was full excesses why he could not pay his rent.... His kid stole the money ETC He never understood that it was not my problem ... had to fill in a [i think it was a section20]to get him out so i wrote a glowing reference and forgot about the money he owed and sold the place

Replied: 17th Oct 2023 at 06:44
Last edited by peter israel: 17th Oct 2023 at 11:32:58

Posted by: Owd Codger (3196)

Being a landlord is not the gravy train that television programmes like "Houses under the Hammer" lead people into thinking it is as friends of ours found out when they ended up having to go to court to get a non rent payer evicted and when he was evicted, ended up with a large bill to rectify the terrible mess he had made of the property!

Replied: 17th Oct 2023 at 08:36

Posted by: frecky (624)

Tonker, The contract I meant was the first six months whereby if the tenant wished to leave before the six months they had to pay all the contract. After that contract was up it went on a rolling contract and that's when the two months notice came in. I presume this is still the case.

Replied: 17th Oct 2023 at 11:00

Posted by: whups (13369) 

maybe todger but were not talking about that are we it,s about those who PAY the rent but get kicked out thru no fault of their own .

Replied: 17th Oct 2023 at 11:35

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15562)

Whupsy

But supposing the landlord wants/needs their property back ?

Replied: 17th Oct 2023 at 11:46

Posted by: whups (13369) 

that,s not wot we are talking about . wot about the rights of the renter who is ordered to get out even tho they have NEVER missed a payment . wot about them .

Replied: 17th Oct 2023 at 11:58

Posted by: frecky (624)

Whups, nobody is saying it's fair but the tenant knows the situation when signing up.....going back to paying the rent to the landlord then tenant. I worked for the housing dept for twenty odd years and when I started the rent was paid directly to the council. The rent arrears was manageable because it was only on properties that actually paid rent. The people on benefits or unemployed didn't occur any because it was paid direct. Fast forward to when it was paid to the tenant and rent arrears shot up and a lot of these folk knew the procedures regarding rent arrears and it could take months to get them into court. They would then pay a few quid and promise to pay the arrears and the court always would agree to a payment plan then after a few weeks they would stop paying and the process would have to start all over again. I could take a year to get them out because the council had to go by the book. It does seem grossly unfair to terminate a tenancy in the private sector if someone is up to date on their payments, and that's why a bill to alter that is already going through parliament.

Replied: 17th Oct 2023 at 14:01

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15562)

Whupsy

"wot about the rights of the renter"

Wot about the rights of the property owner, who want their property back ?

Replied: 17th Oct 2023 at 14:22

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

I know someone who is a huge scale landlord in Manchester.

When he wants someone out, he sends one of his operatives to "make them an offer that they can't refuse"!

(Having said that, I doubt any legislation would modify his way of doing things.)

He really is a baddy!

Replied: 17th Oct 2023 at 19:24

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15562)

Ena

He sounds like a disciple of Rackmanism

Replied: 17th Oct 2023 at 20:43

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

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Replied: 17th Oct 2023 at 21:17
Last edited by ena malcup: 17th Oct 2023 at 23:32:44

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15562)

He sounds horrible.

Replied: 17th Oct 2023 at 22:38

Posted by: ena malcup (4151) 

message removed now you have read it.

not going to tempt providence.

Replied: 17th Oct 2023 at 23:33

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15562)

Ena

Ok

Replied: 17th Oct 2023 at 23:36

Posted by: whups (13369) 

they shud,nt have rented it in the 1st place shud they . so answer the question .

Replied: 17th Oct 2023 at 23:51

Posted by: Tommy Two Stroke (15562)

Whupsy

I have answered the question.

Replied: 18th Oct 2023 at 12:01

 

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